It's on the record

........calls in the middle of

the night, so forth and so on, and he's a fraud. It
was a fraud. It was a scam.



At that

point in time, E-Medsoft was a very popular subject at
Sherwood Country Club and at Lakeside and at Bel Air

...... apparently got a $70 million loan

arranged from the ........., and then he claimed --
and he went to Switzerland with Mitchell. I have a
couple of voicemails where he called me from
Mitchell's what he says G-5. Mitchell calls his G-
3 a G-5. That's like calling a Cadillac a Rolls Royce




they all

lost millions of dollars because of Mitchell's touting
the stock and telling lies, and the news that was
released on Med was apparently false.





talked to him over

and over again about paying income tax and how should
I go about this because he was, you know, claimed to
be quite an astute guy in all ways. And he kept
telling me I should go talk to his accountant.


........" He said "Oh,
there's a million ways to not pay."
And then, of course, a few days



after I wrote the government the checks for $560,000,
he said "You're an idiot. Why did you do that?
You're crazy. Why would you pay those taxes?" I said
you know, "'Cause that's what you're supposed to do."
We had a big argument about that. He told me I was
unsophisticated, didn't understand things.




..............he completely destroyed the relationship because

he got drunk and offered to sell the guy E-Medsoft
stock. I think he offered him two shares for every
share he bought in the market, or some -- something
like that.
By acting like a fool and throwing clubs on
the golf course and quitting in the middle of the
round. His etiquette on the golf course is the worst
I've ever seen.




Yeah. I mean Mitchell only gives

you a little piece of the story, and that's why he
isolates people and not allows others to talk to
others, and it's incomplete data. And sometimes he'll
give you just blatant misinformation.



He and Tracy had a conversation with .....,

........ they were cutting loose a lot of
people because -- and he always talked about people
that sucked money out of him and took advantage of
him. It's preposterous.


Is it fair to say that Mr. Stein is a pretty
heavy drinker?

At times.